The happiest day in my wife's life will be when she receives THIS. She has contributed to Canada for over 10 years since her landing sixteen years ago and has helped to support this family. After she receives her Canadian citizenship, she will no longer have to deal with the self-entitled types back in the country where she was birthed (It's not home anymore) who expect her to pay her "fair-share" while she receives no benefits, no representation...or anything connected with the United States; who lift up their hands in self-entitled greed backed by statute, expecting that she will pay their way when it would take food off our family's table and the clothes off our children's backs.
She has paid her FAIR SHARE to Canada, for 10 years and counting, for the roads that she uses, for the sidewalks that she walks on; for the education that our children (born in Canada) have received, for the health-care that she and our family receives in Canada and all for the love of our family.
And like my father who took out his Canadian citizenship, 50 years to the day that he landed on Canadian soil (because he chose to give his life with work and paying taxes to Canada before receiving his benefits - he did not feel entitled to take out citizenship before retirement - his exact words were, he "owed Canada for providing him and his family a life"); after emigrating from Japan in 1956 and he died a Canadian in 2009. My father would be ashamed if he could see HIS Canada today, the country that he loved because he wanted his beloved daughter-in-law to have the same rights that he did that he worked so hard for. My father was a simple man, he worked hard and provided for his family and in turn he helped my family while I was getting on my feet (that is the love of an Asian father). My father never had the chance to vote as a Canadian yet he paid his taxes to Canada throughout his life. My wife wants to be a Canadian so that she has the full rights of being able to vote in this country that my father was unable to (because he died before he could exercise his right to vote); to exercise the rights and freedoms provided by the Charter of Rights & Freedoms of Canada. My father loved this country, yet our country fails to protect the daughter-in-law that he loved, as much as I love.
I love my country, but my country has betrayed me twice: First when it interned my loyal maternal grandfather's (grandfather, grandmother, uncles and my mother) family in Slocan. Second when it said to my wife and 1M+ other Canadians and permanent residents (those who have moved here with the intention of gaining citizenship in Canada) that they were second-class citizens) and that "Congress had spoken" as if Canada was a lapdog of the United States or even worse, the 51st State of the Union. I still LOVE Canada, with all my heart and soul, but I stand here a jaded man, bitter and angry, that the Liberals and the Progressive Conservatives would relegate my wife and 1M+ others and their Canadian families to the role of second class-citizen.
So to anyone who would dismiss that loyalty, that love of country. who says that she is a second-class Canadian resident, and/or self-entitledly feel that she should give you something or scream fair-share due to the fact that she is of a citizenship (that she cannot shed fast enough) of a country that practices a taxation form that is only matched by that of a 3rd World Banana Republic and supports an administration that has persecuted her because of it: FUCK YOU!!!
To the friends-in-arms (who are going through this crap) like Bubblebustin', Trisha Moon, SwissTechie, Gwenny and Petros who have been instrumental in becoming a support group and network and loyal friends, Thank you; you mean more to me and to my wife than you know.
To my friends from school who actually do understand the situation who knew me before I became this seething ball of rage, thank you for standing by me, for believing that I am still the same person you once knew in school as a caring and understanding guy underneath all this rage at this injustice and that all my rage that I have presented here on this page is mainly because I hate persecution, especially when it is unjust. I will not pay taxes to a government that I derive no benefit from and I should think that my wife feels the same. That is why my wife has no problems paying taxes to Canada because she derives benefits from being a Canadian resident. If you think anything different of me just because I rage at injustice, then as George Carlin once said, "I don't give a fuck, Go Fuck Yourself."
My wife WILL get her Canadian citizenship; she will become a loyal Canadian; she will vote for the next prime minister of Canada but the satisfaction of my beloved wife becoming Canadian will be bittersweet tempered because I know now that Canada is not the shining beacon of fairness and equality that it holds herself out to be.









Your CLN Is Your Proof of Purchase
Think of it this way. Pretend you go to a store and buy a camera. You hand over the money and the cashier puts the camera in a bag and you walk out. The camera is yours.
Now pretend that you buy the camera, but the cashier puts a receipt in the shopping bag, along with the camera.
Does the receipt make a difference as to whether you, standing on the sidewalk, are the owner of the camera? No. It is merely a proof of purchase, so that if needed in the future (e.g., you want to return the camera and get a refund), you can prove to someone else that you are the owner.
A Certificate of Loss of Nationality is like that receipt. It is an acknowledgment from the U.S. government that you stopped being a U.S. citizen, just like the receipt from the camera store is an acknowledgment that you bought a camera.
Plainly put, getting the Certificate of Loss of Nationality doesn’t make you a noncitizen. Not getting the Certificate of Loss of Nationality does not mean you remain a citizen.
Standing in front of the Consular official and swearing the oath makes you a noncitizen.
However, what the State Department thinks (you are relinquished your nationality) and what the IRS thinks (we’re not sure whether you are an “expatriate” or not) is where we get confusion.
You know, Phil ol’ boy, this is the first time that I’ve ever heard of a “un-servicing” having to be paid for. I guess it’s really true that the United States thinks that US citizens are all slaves. I guess we have to pay for an acknowledgement that the United States decided that they are kind enough to let us go quietly rather than a flaming AGM-65 Maverick up the wazoo. But in this case if you’re comparing the loss of nationality to the purchase of a camera… you are absolutely nuts.
In the first case, all I’m left with is a receipt in my hand and no product other than a kick in the ass and a “see you later, traitor”. Not much for customer service, are they?
In your comparison: let’s see if I go to The Camera Store in Calgary, AB for example and say to Chris or Evelyn, “Hey, I wanna buy a Nikon D5 (y’know. The latest and greatest), I have product in my hand, a brand-new Nikon D5 which I can take to shoot landscapes, hockey (Canada’s greatest sport) and all that. And on top of that, I get a cheery smile from Chris and Evelyn and a “thank you for your business.” I think I prefer that customer service over the US Department of Immigration which hasn’t done shit for me except take my wife’s hard-earned money.
With the CLN, that’s all I get…and nothing else. If I was getting some benefits, Medicare, US infrastructure and education for all that tax-money that we are supposed to pay out to the United States, I’d be more apt to agree with you that the CLN was actually a receipt for “services rendered”. But my wife got her post-secondary education in Canada – Canadian taxpayers helped pay for her education.
But we have to pay the United States for what? Wastrels who spend their time getting knocked up and then exclaiming that “Someone done need to pay for my kids.”? And entitled scumbags that want free money for doing nothing?
You know what; I’d rather not pay them a dime if supporting those in the States who want to do nothing is what my wife’s expat taxes have to do. So fuck your CLN and fuck your people who want others to pay for them.
And fuck your comparison of obtaining a CLN/receipt to a legal transaction of services/product rendered for cash paid. Because a CLN is nothing but highway robbery; essentially a comparison should be made for an acknowledgement of slave-ownership and the $2350 is the emancipation fee.
But unlike most of my “born-in-Canada” friends like me…who would have no connection to this sort of problem unless they married an American (I did and thus was hooked into the FATCA mess – I’m trying to extricate my spouse who still unlike me has no idea of just how vitriolic the land of her birth can be)… who continue unawares of the injustices of the donkey of a nation south of the border against those who would seek to leave.
I have lost absolute faith in the humanity of those of my countrymen who just say “shut up and pay the taxes”…or “lose your citizenship”. This coming from Canadians who don’t seem to get the problem that presents itself of my wife having to pay for taxes for services that she doesn’t receive and that would, in an instant of Canada revoking services, revolt on paying taxes – what hypocrisy!
On top of that she is expected by both Canadian government to pay taxes to a country (in whom she is a landed immigrant/permanent resident) who treats her like she doesn’t matter, that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms isn’t worth the paper that it is written on. Well, we use services here and our children go to school here in Canada so pay we will.
I WILL NOT pay a country whose services my wife does not receive. I will not pay for someone else to receive those benefits that my wife is supposedly “on the hook” for. In otherwords, the United States who has sent a bill to every single expatriate living outside of the United States.
The country that she lives in is Canada and she will only pay for the services that she receives from Canada where she works in. She will not pay the United States to allow someone ELSE to NOT work and collect welfare. She does not drive on US roads, She does not use the United States education system. She has paid into Canadian taxes and has made use of the Canadian education system of post-secondary education. So I won’t let her pay a single penny into the United States tax system and they can FUCKING WELL GO TO HELL!
Yeah, I should really save my energy, but nothing pisses me off more than the United States 99% leeching off of countless expat families who are making middle-class wages to minimum wage. What pisses me off even more is that those 99% think that they’re ENTITLED to those families’ money in return for nothing from the United States Government.
My question to them is: WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!!!